Becky Watts trial - Day 11

The trial of four people arrested in connection with the murder of Becky Watts continues hearing evidence today. Nathan Matthews and Shauna Hoare deny kidnapping and murdering the teen. James Ireland and Donovan Demetrius deny assisting an offender.

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Becky Watts trial: Matthews wanted to make Becky 'more appreciative of life'

Matthews told police he may have got his kidnap plan 'from TV', and he had plotted to carry it out to make Becky "more appreciative of life".

In two further interviews - in which Matthews was described as "sobbing" - he said come up with the idea to scare the teen.

Obviously I came up with the plan to scare her.

Like to try and basically make her more appreciative of life, like more appreciative of people, like she would be grateful that she had not been harmed.

She would leave things out for my mum to trip over and talk to her like dirt on the floor.

I thought if I was able to scare her and she would not be harmed when she got back she would have been scared and more appreciative of things.

I would have stuck her in a suitcase. I would have put tape around her mouth so she would not make a noise.

– Nathan Matthews

He said he planned to make an excuse to his girlfriend Shauna Hoare and then drive to a "wooded area".

I would still have the mask on and scare her and say something along the lines of 'you have to start treating people better and not be a b**ch and self centered and make a threat that this could happen again or worse."

– Nathan Matthews

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Becky Watts trial: Matthews 'I'm a caveman'

In his first interview after his arrest, on February 28, Matthews described himself as psychologically disturbed.

When asked by the custody sergeant, when he was booked in at Patchway Police Station, if he had any mental health problems, he answered yes, and said he was four things, "emotionally unstable, psychologically disturbed, a metrosexual and a neanderthal'

I'm told I can overreact and can take things the wrong way.

I'm emotionally unstable.

– Nathan Matthews

When asked to describe metrosexual, Matthews said:

Basically I'm in touch with my feminine side and act gat, that kind of thing.

Because obviously there is lots of different versions of what people think metrosexual means on google, and that is what it means to me.

– Nathan Matthews

He was then asked to explain neanderthal.

I'm a neandthal, grumpy, basic thinking man, obviously not highly intelligent. I don't know how to specifically explain it. I don't know, I have a mental block just like a caveman.

When I'm aggressive I'm similar to a caveman, basically like a caveman, obviously, mentally undeveloped.

I react like a caveman, if they start a fire I'm going to react, that is kind of what a caveman is.

I have a fight or flight reflex. I always say, don't back a rat into a corner because they will attack first. If I'm being physically threatened or shouted at, then obviously I will react with aggression or shouting.

– Nathan Matthews

He said that he was a naturally stressed person, and told police:

Obviously I punch things. It doesn't mean I'm really angry. It's like I hurt myself on something so I will punch it back

– Nathan Matthews

He described himself as a paranoid person and admitted snapping at both Becky and his mum.

Becky Watts trial: Matthews had 'anger problem'

A Territorial Army member has said she thought Matthews had an anger problem, and would often "snap" while on training.

Danielle Rogers, who was a member of the TA alongside Matthews in 2006/7 told the court there were times he would worry her. She said Matthews would drive the pair to training, in Cardiff, and often take his anger out "on his driving".

She said it would never frighten her, but she was worried.

I noticed he had a bit of an anger problem at times, he would sometimes snap in frustration and throw things in temper sometimes.

– Danielle Rogers

Another TA recruit said she believed Matthews was a "quiet nice guy", while his Squadron Sgt Major said he was keen and willing to learn.

The court also heard how Matthews learned about using cat litter to "absorb liquids" and "decontaminate" with the TA.

The jury has been told that cat litter - or Fuller's Earth - was found piled on top of part of Becky's torso inside a box in a shed.

Roy Kempton, who was Squadron Sgt Major of the unit in 2006 said training would have included camouflage, concealment, army discipline, and chemical, biological and nuclear defence, including decontamination.

Decontamination would have included the processes and the use of Fuller's Earth [DKP].

While on basic training their areas, and surrounding areas, would have been required to be kept in a pristine condition.

When I say spotless, I mean spotless.

He added that if their areas had not been prestige and spotless, then there would have been punishments including pushups, removal of privileges or even jail.

– Roy Kempton

Ms Rogers echoed the statement.

We learnt about chemical exposure and wearing of appropriate protective clothing and how to deal with all that, masks and the like.

We were taught about DKP, which is a powder used to mop things up. It's the same colour as cat litter.

– Danielle Rogers

Former Grenadier Guard and TA cadet instructor Darren Thomas taught Matthews in 2000 at a detachment in Cadbury Heath, Bristol.

Mr Thomas said cadets would have been told about the use of Fuller's Earth - a powder in cat litter - in covering chemicals and "absorbing fluids".

Nathan would have been taught that this powder could be used in the event of a chemical or noxious liquid spraying on them.

– Darren Thomas

Becky Watts trial: Ireland thought he was moving items from a 'robbery'

Another housemate of James Ireland said he had a conversation with the accused in a pub, where he recounted what had happened.

Richard Whitton told the court Ireland believed he was moving items to do with a robbery, and thought he was getting around £5,000 for helping.

He said his friend just wanted some stuff moved, something to do with a robbery and they wanted some stuff moved.

He presumed it was a robbery because whoever it was thought they were going to get raided.

It thought it was odd because you wouldn't get told if you were going to get raided. I thought it was a load of rubbish.

– Richard Whitton

Mr Whitton told the court Ireland had said he had got into the work van and driven down to Barton Hill, where he "moved the stuff".

He just said it was from a robbery, he presumed it was worth about £20,000 and he was going to be getting £5,000 for it.

He had been told to just get rid of it.

– Richard Whitton

But, Mr Whitton said, once he had handled the packages his opinion changed to thinking he may be moving drugs.

He said at one point Ireland gestured with his hands as to how big the packages had been, holding his hands about a foot apart.

He said the packages were soft, and we discussed it wouldn't be electrical stuff if they were soft. That's when the conversation turned to drugs.

He said they were tightly packaged.

– Richard Whitton

Under cross examination Mr Whitton conceded that during the conversation, at the Miles public house, in Avonmouth, he believed it was "typical Jamie telling one of his stories" in an attempt "to impress" him.

He said he had been sceptical, and the conversation seemed "unreal" to him.

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Becky Watts trial: James Ireland chatted about 'moving stuff' to friends

A housemate of James Ireland says he chatted to him about "moving some stuff" the night after Becky's body was allegedly moved.

Simon Knight told the court that he had had a conversation with Ireland, known to his friends as Jamie, where he had told him one of his friends had had a phone call while at work asking them to "go move some stuff".

Ireland, he said, would "do anything for money" so agreed to help his friend. The pair took a van from their work, at British Areospace in Avonmouth, and drove to Barton Hill, Mr Knight said.

He said to me he went to pick up the stuff from Barton Hill. He told me when he got there he saw a male and a female.

– Simon Knight

Mr Knight then recounted to the court how then started loading bags into the van.

He said he was putting some bags into the van, then he drove off. He said he took them to a house, he said he unloaded the bags and drove it back to the house.

He said there was one person in the van with him, he didn't say who, just that it was the male, the person's whose house he had gone to, that was my understanding.

– Simon Knight

When the job was done, he said 'the male' invited inside the address in Barton Hill, where they had a cigarette together, before Ireland went back to work.

Mr Knight told the court that Ireland would do "anything for money", so if someone had offered money to move things, he would have taken it at face value for the money only.

Under cross examination Mr Knight said he believed Ireland had never met the people he had helped before, and could not recall any details about them.

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