Optimism and warning from Welsh Labour leaders

Expect the First Minister and the new Shadow Welsh Secretary toplay good cop and bad cop when they refer to uncertainties within theLabour party about its direction under new leader Jeremy Corbyn.

Carwyn Jones will sound the warning note in his speech to Labour'sconference in Brighton later.

Picking up onhis Keir Hardie lecture in Merthyr Tydfil on Friday,he's expected to reiterate his belief that Hardie's legacy for theparty he led first is the commitment to reach out beyond coresupporters, to win power in order to improve the lives of the poorestpeople.

I think it's fair to see a warning against narrowing Labour's appeal when he says that 'there is no voter ... we can afford to turn away.'

It's a phrase that he's expected to say when he highlights the way the Welsh Government works with businesses such as those involved in TV and film production.

'Our Jeremy'

Nia Griffith, on the other hand, will focus on the positives in the election of the man she's expected to call 'our Jeremy.'

She'll highlight the huge sense of engagement that was seen during the campaign and take that as an encouraging sign for the future for Labour.

In truth there's not necessarily a contradiction between the two stances. Plenty of Labour politicians in private conversations with me have latched onto burgeoning local party membership and a sense of excitement and engagement they think - they hope - they can harness, even if they remain concerned about the reality of a Jeremy Corbyn leadership.

It's a tension which makes this Labour conference - this period of Labour party history - so fascinating to cover as a journalist, but during which it must be unsettling to say the least be a party member.